Moorhead Looks At Louisiana In Weekly Press Conference
September 10, 2018 | Football
by Brandon Langlois, Associate Director/Communications
STARKVILLE – Mississippi State head coach Joe Moorhead met with members of the media on Monday afternoon to preview the 16th-ranked Bulldogs' upcoming home game this Saturday with Louisiana, which will mark the fifth meeting between the teams and the first since 1987.
Kickoff between the Bulldogs (2-0) and Ragin' Cajuns (1-0) is set for 6:30 p.m. CT at Davis Wade Stadium and the contest will be televised by SEC Network (ALT). For complete gameday and stadium information, visit HailState.com/gameday.
Below is a transcript of Moorhead's Monday press conference.
Head coach Joe Moorhead – Press Conference
September 10, 2018
Opening Statement…
"To start off, we'll talk about Kansas State. It was a great team win, and I thought we played well on all three phases. It feels great to be 2-0. I'd like to thank the Mississippi State fans who made the trip out there and gave us great support there on the road. It was our first win against a Power 5 non-conference team since 1995. I have the upmost respect for Coach (Bill) Snyder and his program that he's built there. To have a win against such a great team and program meant a lot to us as a team.
"I've been pleased with our productivity and scoring offense and scoring defense. I think we're doing a really good job there. I'm happy with our kickoff return unit. The two biggest factors, that we believe determine the outcome of games are explosive play margin and turnover margin. I think we're doing a really good job there, but I'd like to be creating more turnovers on defense. I think we're on the right path of doing a really good job with third-down conversion percentage, red-zone offense and red-zone defense. So, I'm certainly pleased there. There's still plenty to address and clean up moving forward. The penalties in this game were too many … 11. So, we're going to address that and get it cleaned up. We had some substitution errors on offense, defense and special teams that caused us to burn some timeouts that would have been helpful to have later in the game should it have been closer. Then, the biggest thing is playing within a system. And think that's something that, in all three phases, we need to continue to address and work on. We are continually harping to our guys that we don't need them to do anything extraordinary, but they need to do the ordinary things extraordinarily well. They don't need to 'make a play', but they can do that within the structure of our system. To me, making a play is knowing your assignment, playing with fanatical effort and executing with surgical precision. We need to continue to do that better moving forward. As the execution continues to improve, our productivity will.
"Our players of the week after Kansas State as selected by the MSU coaching staff were, on offense Kylin Hill, on defense Erroll Thompson and on special teams Alec Murphy in addition to Hill being named SEC Offensive Player of the Week, and Montez Sweat being named SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week. Our scout team players of the week, those guys don't get a lot of credit or fanfare, but they do a great service to our team … Everybody knowing their role and contributing in a positive manner. Offensively, running back Robert Rivers. Defensively, defensive lineman Fabien Lovett, and special teams, we have R.J. Jennings. Our Student Athletes of the Week, as selected by our academic support staff, were freshmen Nathaniel Watson and Devonta Jason. We are excited about those guys getting it done in the classroom.
"On an injury front, Jesse Jackson is day-to-day with an upper body. Jamal Peters is day-to-day with an upper body. Marlon Reese is also day-to-day with an upper body.
"Moving onto Louisiana, they are led by a first-year coach Billy Napier. He came from Arizona State and has experience in the SEC at Alabama and also spent some time at Clemson. They won their Week 1 game against Grambling, 49-17, and are coming off a bye week. They have certainly had time to prepare. I'm expecting a great game from them. Offensively, they're another spread team and major in 11-personnel. They do a great job stretching the field horizontally, creating match-up problems and using space to their advantage. We feel their best players are the quarterback, Andre Nunez. If you look at his game against Grambling, he did a fantastic job. He completed 19 of his final 20 attempts for 184 yards with two touchdowns including one on the ground. He broke the single-game record for completion percentage at 86 percent, which is certainly a very high percentage. The running back, Trey Ragas, had 142 yards and one touchdown in the opener and was Third Team All-Sun Belt last year. They have a very good and experienced receiver corps, who we believe is led by wide receiver Ja'Marcus Bradley. He was an All-Sun Belt Honorable Mention last year. He started all 12 games, and he had two touchdown catches in the opener. They have four starters returning on the offensive line. They have a very experienced offensive unit. To be able to put up 49 points against anyone at this level is very impressive. Certainly, with their extra time to prepare, we feel we will have to defend the whole field against these guys, major in the inside zone, do a lot of things with motion, some unbalanced stuff that forces you to play with great gap integrity and eye discipline. They challenge you from a presentation standpoint. They really force you to be disciplined on defense. Defensively, they are a multiple 3-4. They play with three down linemen and kind of a rush end, who will line to the field or to the boundary. They play a variety of coverages. We feel their best players, on that side of the ball are No. 98 the defensive tackle, 38 the linebacker and 6 the safety. They do some great things on special teams as well. The top players are No. 43 Jourdon Quibodeaux, their most disruptive player on kickoff, and they have an LSU transfer at kicker, who made 7 of 7 PATs last week. They did a really good job in the return game as well. That's certainly something we will have to be prepared to face.
"Our keys to victory as always will be how well we prepare, how hard we play and how well we execute. We're certainly going to go at this week one at a time with a Championship Standard in everything we do on and off the field. I'm excited to be back home in the friendly confines of Davis Wade Stadium. I'm excited to hear more cowbells, and I'm excited to keep this thing moving in a positive direction."
On Aeris Williams…
"He did not get a snap. I actually just got done meeting with Aeris. On this situation, but kind of in general from a broad strokes perspective, playing time on Saturday is dictated by really your performance during the week and your accountability and all those things. Based on this week's quality of work, we felt it was (Kylin) Hill and (Nick) Gibson that did the best job and deserved the repetitions on the field. I talked with Aeris, and we're going to get it rolling again on Tuesday. We expect him to have a great week and get a good amount of snaps to contribute in a positive manner. I love him. He's a great kid. He's going to have a great season moving forward."
On desire to make plays…
"The term we've been using as a staff is 'controlled aggression'. We want to make sure our competitiveness, desire and how hard we play – definitely one of our strengths – but once you go outside of the system and try to do things that you're not assigned to do, it's a bit of fool's gold where you do it, make a play and it looks good. But at a certain point in the year, against a certain opponent where you'll need it, you're going to fall back on that. We don't want to positively reinforce things that are done incorrectly from a schematics standpoint when a positive outcome occurs. We want to make sure we're doing all the things that are necessary, and we are paying great attention to detail."
On consistency in Nick Fitzgerald and Keytaon Thompson's play…
"I think there's been consistency from a productivity standpoint. The first week, we had seven touchdowns from the quarterback position. This week, we had 150 yards rushing and threw for two. Certainly, we need to increase our efficiency while maintaining our productivity. I think that may be partly schematic that we are attempting to push the ball down the field more. Some things you saw were him throwing it to the right receiver, and us just not … and a lot of things go into completion percentage – protection, the route, the read and the throw. I think both Fitzgerald and Thompson have made positive steps forward with what we want them to do at the quarterback position. We do need to be completing passes at a higher percentage."
On the 65 percent benchmark set for completion percentage…
"I use that as a benchmark, and we've hit it pretty consistently since 2012. When you look at Trace McSorley's first year in the system (Penn State), he hit 56 percent. He didn't reach the 65. But, what I don't want to get caught up in is the number that it needs to be (65) at the expense of our productivity and putting points on the board. Ultimately, when you're looking at statistics from that point, number one is the wins and making sure we're doing what's necessary offensively and from the quarterback position to continue to win games. Two, it's productivity. If we're going to average 47, he may be a little more run-heavy and if we're getting low 50s, high 50s and still putting points on the board, then I think we will sacrifice a little bit of the completion percentage for productivity from a scoring and winning standpoint. But certainly, the higher rate we can complete passes, the better off we'll be.
On Devonta Jason…
"He's battling for reps at the X position. Stephen (Guidry) has taken over the starting role over there. Osirus (Mitchell) is at the Z position, and Jesse (Jackson) is a guy who had started the past year and has a lot of good experience. He's a guy I think I refer to as kind of like a Swiss Army knife. He may not be the starter, but he can go in at all three positions. Certainly we like Whop (Devonta Jason), and we like his potential. I think he has a very bright future, and he's in the mix for playing time at the X position.
On the receiver group…
"I think the receiver group is playing well. Looking at the game, Stephen (Guidry) had two catches and both were explosive plays. One was on a very critical third down and long where he caught it and ran. I think that was actually kind of the play that got us sparked and moving. He had another explosive play from backed up that got us out of the shadow of our own goal post. Looking across the line, Osirus (Mitchell) didn't have as many opportunities this week but did have two big ones last week. Austin (Williams) had his first-career touchdown reception. Deddrick (Thomas) and Keith (Mixon) are in the mix at slot with Stephen (Guidry), Jesse (Jackson) and Devonta (Jason) working. So, I think, as we continue to grow in this offense … Going back, it's a little bit of Nick (Fitzgerald) shaking the rust off after not playing a game live for almost an entire year and in a new system. All of those things combine together. Week-by-week we will continue to see a gradual improvement. We have to stop using the word 'if' and I said that in a staff meeting. We need to turn those 'ifs' to 'dids.'"
On accountability level in the program …
"We don't want to use the word culture as a buzz word, but we want to make sure we're adhering to what we believe is best for the team from a little-things standpoint. We talk about discipline, accountability and attention to detail. Those are all things in a margin-of-error football league that if you don't hone in on them and pay attention to them, it affects the individual and team. In a close game against a great opponent, those will be things that'll get you beat. We need to make sure we're doing all the little things that will help us down the road."
On the advantage of having former Louisiana head coach Mark Hudspeth on staff…
"I think it's a great advantage, particularly because we only have one game of film on them. They had the bye week before them. It won't help from a schematics standpoint because I believe Coach (Billy) Napier calls the plays and runs the offense. Coach (Ron) Roberts was head coach at Southeastern Louisiana. He'll have a normal role on the Xs and Os of the offense and special teams, but it'll be from more of a personnel standpoint because he recruited a majority of these guys. He'll be able to help us from that standpoint."
On how to receive a helmet sticker…
"There is a defined set of criteria on offense, defense and special teams. From a simplistic standpoint, it's one for a win, two for a road win and then there are numerical or statistical benchmarks. I guess you can say there is a dash subjectivity in it for a game-changing play. Our coaches all have the sheet. When they grade the film, they go through and hand it to our director of football operations who hands it to the equipment guy. It would take a little while to go through it all, but there are benchmarks and statistical items that allow you to get one … I did them (helmet stickers) at Fordham and thought it was a cool idea to do here. I'm just trying to create some sort of tradition and get the kids excited for their performance. They can only earn them in wins. You cannot earn a sticker in a loss."
On Erroll Thompson…
"I think, on top of his ability, he does a great job at our Mike linebacker position, making the calls and getting people lined up. He's a steadying influence on the team. He's not a guy, on a team and a defense that plays with a lot of confidence and emotion, he's a guy that is very level-headed and even-keeled. And amidst the chaos that is defense, he's a guy we want to create with controlled aggression. He's the quarterback of the defense, you could say."
On importance of the linebackers…
"Erroll (Thompson) and Tim (Washington) got a few snaps. Certainly, Leo (Lewis) and Willie (Gay) do a great job in there. You have to double team somebody up front. Coach (Tem) Lukabu and Coach (Bob) Shoop do a great job working together and making sure their gap fits are right and are tied into their coverage responsibilities. The biggest thing, outside of first and second down, is that we're doing a very good job stopping the run. Our back end is doing a very good job covering. When we get teams in third-and-medium plus and it's a must-pass situation, I think we've done a very good job scheming third-down pressures. Our guys do a great job blitzing and getting to the quarterback. That's one of the real strengths of our linebackers, their willingness and ability to blitz and put pressure on the quarterback."
On Nick Fitzgerald's comfort…
"Everyone has seen the injury. His ankle was facing the wrong way. We got it straightened out and healed. Obviously, with an injury of that magnitude, there would be some natural trepidations. Once he had the first few runs and first hit, then he really got more comfortable as the game progressed. You saw him quiet his feet down in the pocket where he wasn't as antsy to get out of there. I don't think there's a lack of comfort, but it's a continued familiarity with the offense, the things we ask him to do and the game repetitions that will help him get more comfortable."
On Johnathan Abram….
"Johnathan is a guy who plays with emotion and recklessness, in a good way. He's a great run stopper, and he's a very fiery and emotional leader for our team. I explained to him that we can't have targets, and we can't have guys putting themselves in a position to hurt the team from getting kicked out and also moving forward. I told him he would walk off the field, hold his head high and not say a word, and we still loved him, and he will learn from this."
STARKVILLE – Mississippi State head coach Joe Moorhead met with members of the media on Monday afternoon to preview the 16th-ranked Bulldogs' upcoming home game this Saturday with Louisiana, which will mark the fifth meeting between the teams and the first since 1987.
Kickoff between the Bulldogs (2-0) and Ragin' Cajuns (1-0) is set for 6:30 p.m. CT at Davis Wade Stadium and the contest will be televised by SEC Network (ALT). For complete gameday and stadium information, visit HailState.com/gameday.
Below is a transcript of Moorhead's Monday press conference.
Head coach Joe Moorhead – Press Conference
September 10, 2018
Opening Statement…
"To start off, we'll talk about Kansas State. It was a great team win, and I thought we played well on all three phases. It feels great to be 2-0. I'd like to thank the Mississippi State fans who made the trip out there and gave us great support there on the road. It was our first win against a Power 5 non-conference team since 1995. I have the upmost respect for Coach (Bill) Snyder and his program that he's built there. To have a win against such a great team and program meant a lot to us as a team.
"I've been pleased with our productivity and scoring offense and scoring defense. I think we're doing a really good job there. I'm happy with our kickoff return unit. The two biggest factors, that we believe determine the outcome of games are explosive play margin and turnover margin. I think we're doing a really good job there, but I'd like to be creating more turnovers on defense. I think we're on the right path of doing a really good job with third-down conversion percentage, red-zone offense and red-zone defense. So, I'm certainly pleased there. There's still plenty to address and clean up moving forward. The penalties in this game were too many … 11. So, we're going to address that and get it cleaned up. We had some substitution errors on offense, defense and special teams that caused us to burn some timeouts that would have been helpful to have later in the game should it have been closer. Then, the biggest thing is playing within a system. And think that's something that, in all three phases, we need to continue to address and work on. We are continually harping to our guys that we don't need them to do anything extraordinary, but they need to do the ordinary things extraordinarily well. They don't need to 'make a play', but they can do that within the structure of our system. To me, making a play is knowing your assignment, playing with fanatical effort and executing with surgical precision. We need to continue to do that better moving forward. As the execution continues to improve, our productivity will.
"Our players of the week after Kansas State as selected by the MSU coaching staff were, on offense Kylin Hill, on defense Erroll Thompson and on special teams Alec Murphy in addition to Hill being named SEC Offensive Player of the Week, and Montez Sweat being named SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week. Our scout team players of the week, those guys don't get a lot of credit or fanfare, but they do a great service to our team … Everybody knowing their role and contributing in a positive manner. Offensively, running back Robert Rivers. Defensively, defensive lineman Fabien Lovett, and special teams, we have R.J. Jennings. Our Student Athletes of the Week, as selected by our academic support staff, were freshmen Nathaniel Watson and Devonta Jason. We are excited about those guys getting it done in the classroom.
"On an injury front, Jesse Jackson is day-to-day with an upper body. Jamal Peters is day-to-day with an upper body. Marlon Reese is also day-to-day with an upper body.
"Moving onto Louisiana, they are led by a first-year coach Billy Napier. He came from Arizona State and has experience in the SEC at Alabama and also spent some time at Clemson. They won their Week 1 game against Grambling, 49-17, and are coming off a bye week. They have certainly had time to prepare. I'm expecting a great game from them. Offensively, they're another spread team and major in 11-personnel. They do a great job stretching the field horizontally, creating match-up problems and using space to their advantage. We feel their best players are the quarterback, Andre Nunez. If you look at his game against Grambling, he did a fantastic job. He completed 19 of his final 20 attempts for 184 yards with two touchdowns including one on the ground. He broke the single-game record for completion percentage at 86 percent, which is certainly a very high percentage. The running back, Trey Ragas, had 142 yards and one touchdown in the opener and was Third Team All-Sun Belt last year. They have a very good and experienced receiver corps, who we believe is led by wide receiver Ja'Marcus Bradley. He was an All-Sun Belt Honorable Mention last year. He started all 12 games, and he had two touchdown catches in the opener. They have four starters returning on the offensive line. They have a very experienced offensive unit. To be able to put up 49 points against anyone at this level is very impressive. Certainly, with their extra time to prepare, we feel we will have to defend the whole field against these guys, major in the inside zone, do a lot of things with motion, some unbalanced stuff that forces you to play with great gap integrity and eye discipline. They challenge you from a presentation standpoint. They really force you to be disciplined on defense. Defensively, they are a multiple 3-4. They play with three down linemen and kind of a rush end, who will line to the field or to the boundary. They play a variety of coverages. We feel their best players, on that side of the ball are No. 98 the defensive tackle, 38 the linebacker and 6 the safety. They do some great things on special teams as well. The top players are No. 43 Jourdon Quibodeaux, their most disruptive player on kickoff, and they have an LSU transfer at kicker, who made 7 of 7 PATs last week. They did a really good job in the return game as well. That's certainly something we will have to be prepared to face.
"Our keys to victory as always will be how well we prepare, how hard we play and how well we execute. We're certainly going to go at this week one at a time with a Championship Standard in everything we do on and off the field. I'm excited to be back home in the friendly confines of Davis Wade Stadium. I'm excited to hear more cowbells, and I'm excited to keep this thing moving in a positive direction."
On Aeris Williams…
"He did not get a snap. I actually just got done meeting with Aeris. On this situation, but kind of in general from a broad strokes perspective, playing time on Saturday is dictated by really your performance during the week and your accountability and all those things. Based on this week's quality of work, we felt it was (Kylin) Hill and (Nick) Gibson that did the best job and deserved the repetitions on the field. I talked with Aeris, and we're going to get it rolling again on Tuesday. We expect him to have a great week and get a good amount of snaps to contribute in a positive manner. I love him. He's a great kid. He's going to have a great season moving forward."
On desire to make plays…
"The term we've been using as a staff is 'controlled aggression'. We want to make sure our competitiveness, desire and how hard we play – definitely one of our strengths – but once you go outside of the system and try to do things that you're not assigned to do, it's a bit of fool's gold where you do it, make a play and it looks good. But at a certain point in the year, against a certain opponent where you'll need it, you're going to fall back on that. We don't want to positively reinforce things that are done incorrectly from a schematics standpoint when a positive outcome occurs. We want to make sure we're doing all the things that are necessary, and we are paying great attention to detail."
On consistency in Nick Fitzgerald and Keytaon Thompson's play…
"I think there's been consistency from a productivity standpoint. The first week, we had seven touchdowns from the quarterback position. This week, we had 150 yards rushing and threw for two. Certainly, we need to increase our efficiency while maintaining our productivity. I think that may be partly schematic that we are attempting to push the ball down the field more. Some things you saw were him throwing it to the right receiver, and us just not … and a lot of things go into completion percentage – protection, the route, the read and the throw. I think both Fitzgerald and Thompson have made positive steps forward with what we want them to do at the quarterback position. We do need to be completing passes at a higher percentage."
On the 65 percent benchmark set for completion percentage…
"I use that as a benchmark, and we've hit it pretty consistently since 2012. When you look at Trace McSorley's first year in the system (Penn State), he hit 56 percent. He didn't reach the 65. But, what I don't want to get caught up in is the number that it needs to be (65) at the expense of our productivity and putting points on the board. Ultimately, when you're looking at statistics from that point, number one is the wins and making sure we're doing what's necessary offensively and from the quarterback position to continue to win games. Two, it's productivity. If we're going to average 47, he may be a little more run-heavy and if we're getting low 50s, high 50s and still putting points on the board, then I think we will sacrifice a little bit of the completion percentage for productivity from a scoring and winning standpoint. But certainly, the higher rate we can complete passes, the better off we'll be.
On Devonta Jason…
"He's battling for reps at the X position. Stephen (Guidry) has taken over the starting role over there. Osirus (Mitchell) is at the Z position, and Jesse (Jackson) is a guy who had started the past year and has a lot of good experience. He's a guy I think I refer to as kind of like a Swiss Army knife. He may not be the starter, but he can go in at all three positions. Certainly we like Whop (Devonta Jason), and we like his potential. I think he has a very bright future, and he's in the mix for playing time at the X position.
On the receiver group…
"I think the receiver group is playing well. Looking at the game, Stephen (Guidry) had two catches and both were explosive plays. One was on a very critical third down and long where he caught it and ran. I think that was actually kind of the play that got us sparked and moving. He had another explosive play from backed up that got us out of the shadow of our own goal post. Looking across the line, Osirus (Mitchell) didn't have as many opportunities this week but did have two big ones last week. Austin (Williams) had his first-career touchdown reception. Deddrick (Thomas) and Keith (Mixon) are in the mix at slot with Stephen (Guidry), Jesse (Jackson) and Devonta (Jason) working. So, I think, as we continue to grow in this offense … Going back, it's a little bit of Nick (Fitzgerald) shaking the rust off after not playing a game live for almost an entire year and in a new system. All of those things combine together. Week-by-week we will continue to see a gradual improvement. We have to stop using the word 'if' and I said that in a staff meeting. We need to turn those 'ifs' to 'dids.'"
On accountability level in the program …
"We don't want to use the word culture as a buzz word, but we want to make sure we're adhering to what we believe is best for the team from a little-things standpoint. We talk about discipline, accountability and attention to detail. Those are all things in a margin-of-error football league that if you don't hone in on them and pay attention to them, it affects the individual and team. In a close game against a great opponent, those will be things that'll get you beat. We need to make sure we're doing all the little things that will help us down the road."
On the advantage of having former Louisiana head coach Mark Hudspeth on staff…
"I think it's a great advantage, particularly because we only have one game of film on them. They had the bye week before them. It won't help from a schematics standpoint because I believe Coach (Billy) Napier calls the plays and runs the offense. Coach (Ron) Roberts was head coach at Southeastern Louisiana. He'll have a normal role on the Xs and Os of the offense and special teams, but it'll be from more of a personnel standpoint because he recruited a majority of these guys. He'll be able to help us from that standpoint."
On how to receive a helmet sticker…
"There is a defined set of criteria on offense, defense and special teams. From a simplistic standpoint, it's one for a win, two for a road win and then there are numerical or statistical benchmarks. I guess you can say there is a dash subjectivity in it for a game-changing play. Our coaches all have the sheet. When they grade the film, they go through and hand it to our director of football operations who hands it to the equipment guy. It would take a little while to go through it all, but there are benchmarks and statistical items that allow you to get one … I did them (helmet stickers) at Fordham and thought it was a cool idea to do here. I'm just trying to create some sort of tradition and get the kids excited for their performance. They can only earn them in wins. You cannot earn a sticker in a loss."
On Erroll Thompson…
"I think, on top of his ability, he does a great job at our Mike linebacker position, making the calls and getting people lined up. He's a steadying influence on the team. He's not a guy, on a team and a defense that plays with a lot of confidence and emotion, he's a guy that is very level-headed and even-keeled. And amidst the chaos that is defense, he's a guy we want to create with controlled aggression. He's the quarterback of the defense, you could say."
On importance of the linebackers…
"Erroll (Thompson) and Tim (Washington) got a few snaps. Certainly, Leo (Lewis) and Willie (Gay) do a great job in there. You have to double team somebody up front. Coach (Tem) Lukabu and Coach (Bob) Shoop do a great job working together and making sure their gap fits are right and are tied into their coverage responsibilities. The biggest thing, outside of first and second down, is that we're doing a very good job stopping the run. Our back end is doing a very good job covering. When we get teams in third-and-medium plus and it's a must-pass situation, I think we've done a very good job scheming third-down pressures. Our guys do a great job blitzing and getting to the quarterback. That's one of the real strengths of our linebackers, their willingness and ability to blitz and put pressure on the quarterback."
On Nick Fitzgerald's comfort…
"Everyone has seen the injury. His ankle was facing the wrong way. We got it straightened out and healed. Obviously, with an injury of that magnitude, there would be some natural trepidations. Once he had the first few runs and first hit, then he really got more comfortable as the game progressed. You saw him quiet his feet down in the pocket where he wasn't as antsy to get out of there. I don't think there's a lack of comfort, but it's a continued familiarity with the offense, the things we ask him to do and the game repetitions that will help him get more comfortable."
On Johnathan Abram….
"Johnathan is a guy who plays with emotion and recklessness, in a good way. He's a great run stopper, and he's a very fiery and emotional leader for our team. I explained to him that we can't have targets, and we can't have guys putting themselves in a position to hurt the team from getting kicked out and also moving forward. I told him he would walk off the field, hold his head high and not say a word, and we still loved him, and he will learn from this."
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